Saturday, February 13, 2016

A very Interesting Conversation !

      • War is the solution for capitalism in crisis not a distraction. The crisis is one of profitability. Capitalism measures value in socially necessary labour time to produce a commodity. The more efficient the labour process, the more living labour is displaced from the production processs the less value produced. That is the inner contradiction of capitalism, it’s illogical or irrational side. That is how capitalism shoots itself in the foot. With war all old values are slaughtered. Greater accumulation and concentration of wealth occurs and the whole mess starts over again. War is the solution to capitalism in crisis. The US is broke and going for broke, doubling down on PNAC and full spectrum dominance. A transition to a post capitalist world is about the only way out of this mess-This should start in America with general strikes and a list of demands. Housing, health care, clean water infrastructure, guaranteed annual income. Full employment even if it only means two hours work a week thanks to automation. Russia and China can make this transition more peacefully than in the west. They are more open to other methods of production and reproduction of the species. Capitalism is obviously not the best way as this is what is causing all these inter-imperialist rivalries crisis wars and on it goes.
        RR
        • @RR
          You are correct. War has always been a way to fill the coffers, when taxing “the low lives” has emptied the “barrel of income” and hit the bottom.
          The secret though is to win the war, the losers pay.
        • @RR – you missed my point. I said war is to distract the masses from the imminent financial collapse of the West. Yes its profitable for them too – but that wasn’t my point. I was pointing out one reason and the article linked was about how China/Russia/China et al are all moving on with their new system – which the West wants to destroy – so they can keep their unipolar world.
          Meanwhile Turkey/Saudi and co. sign their deth warrants in Syria – Euraisa is rising and moving on……
    • If you haven’t been to this site, I highly recommend it. The author of this site has daily Intel from Damascus directly.
      syrianperspective.com
      The comment sections have a high level of discourse and analysis on the empire’s war against Syria.
  1. The Yank Airstrikes on an MSF Hospital in Aleppo the other day, confirmed by Russian Mil Press Statements.
    How did the Yanks get to pull that off if, as many have been claiming, the Russians have an invinciblle S-400 Air Defence shield in operation?
    Either
    1)the Russian Mil colluded with/allowed the Yanks to bomb the Hospital without fear of reprisal
    OR
    2) The Russian “invincible S-400 Air Defence Missile Shield” ain’t all it’s cracked up to be.
    Afetr all these were not super-duper faster-than-the-speed-of-light state-of-the-art Fighter Jets which carried out the op. These were slow-moving A-10 Warthogs.
    Wassup with that?
    • As I recall, USA and their allies had an aggreement with Syria and Russia about how to fly over Syria. (Personally I think that Syria/Russia was wrong in letting them fly over the country…)
      According to that (stupid) aggreement, USA was obliged to report where they would fly and what they were planning to do. So when their planes came quickly over the border, what would you expect Russia/Syria to do? Shoot them down? Without any evidence that they could show afterwards that the planes would actually attack the hospitals if they hadn’t been shot down?
    • Perhaps Moscow wanted to let the US discredit itself by causing more “collateral damage”; or Moscow does not yet want to start a war by shooting down USAF A-10s (despite Moscow’s legal right to do so.
      I doubt the S-400 failed to detect the A-10s, but I agree with, to some extent, your criticism of Russian military equipment. Throughout the 20th century Russian/Soviet fighters were often more advanced, or on par with their US counterparts, but the battle record massively favours US equipment. A few examples:
      *MiG-15 vs F-86
      *MiG-23/27 vs F-14 (even F-4E outperformed MiG-27)
      *MiG-25, Su-22, & MiG-29 vs F-15
      *MiG-29 vs F-16
      A few weeks ago Saker wrote how the Su-35s in Syria are the most advanced fighters in the world, even more so than the F-22. But why is it US-designed and built “teen series” (i.e. F-14, F-15, F-16, & F-18) have lopsided kill ratios against their Soviet equivalents? Unless the Su-35 get some kills, IMHO the best fighter in the Syrian war theatre is the F-16, due to its excellent combat record.
      • You have a bias regarding US aircraft vs russian. The S-400 system definitely locked on to the A-10s but were not authorized to shoot since the A-10s were no threat to the russians. Understand the engagement rules. In vietnam US vs n vietnam exchange ratio was not 10-1 as expected but more like 1-1. In war games with India US lost almost every time against russian aircraft flown by Indian pilots. US was embarrased. I am familiar with how the US gov analyses one on one dog fights and there are significant areas where russia has the asvantage, believe me. That is why stand off missiles are used but they can be avoided by certain manuevers russian fighters can use where lock is lost. Plus US does not have that much of an advantage with stealth as some would have you believe
      • The rules of engagement most likely did not allow the S-400 to engage the A-10s since they were not a direct threat to the russians and their equipment. I will guaratee you that the Russia S-400 radars were locked on the A-10s all the way ready to fire if necessary. Russians are letting the US hang itself with these bombing provocations
      • I think Russia is leaving it up to Syria to take out any foreign fighters. Russia will take down any threat to themselves is what they said. Of course Russia would respond if NATO forces came for revenge against Syria but they will not start it on Syrian territory.
        RR
      • A great deal depends on the quality, training and experience of pilots -it’s not all technical whizz bangs. Not to worry though, the USA’s F-35 Lemonjet will spend so much time as a hangar queen that the pilots will be deficient in stick time. Either that or the buggy software will doom it or the first terrorist bird ingested will flame its single engine out.
        I just hope that its networked attack software won’t get hacked/get a virus/have a spectactular ‘Bhopal’ failure and launch WWIII.
    • I think someone has their kill ratios wrong of US vs Russian aurcraft. Vietnam was not 10-1 as expected but more like 1-1. Take a look at war games between US and India which flies russian equipment. India embarrased the US in those war games on many occasions. I am familiar with US analysis of agressor one on one dog fights and there are large areas in energy maneuver diagram where US is loser. Why do you think we tend to focus on beyond line of sight AA missiles instead, because our dog fighting ability will not allow us to have an advantage in kill ratio. Russian aircraft have certain maneuver regimes that effectively create a break lock from a missile firing. Be advised that russian aircraft are just as good if not better than US and AA missiles are not as good as many would have you believe
  2. I would like to share Carl Jung’s experience and reflections during his travel to the Pueblo Indians in the USA:
    -taken from Memories, Dreams, Reflections. C. G. Jung (1989 Vintage Books Edition) page 247-249
    There for the first time I had the good fortune to talk with a non-European, that is, to a non-white. He was a chief of the Taos Pueblos, an intelligent man between the ages of forty and fifty. His name was Ochwiay Biano (Mountain Lake). I was able to talk with him as I have rarely been able to talk with a European. To be sure, he was caught up in his world just as much as a European is in his, but what a world it was! In talk with a European, one is constantly running up on the sand bars of things long known but never understood; with this Indian, the vessel floated freely on deep, alien seas. At the same time, one never knows which is more enjoyable: catching sight of new shores, or discovering new approaches to age-old knowledge that has been almost forgotten.
    “See,” Ochwiay Biano said, “how cruel the whites look. Their lips are thin, their noses sharp, their faces furrowed and distorted by folds. Their eyes have a staring expression; they are always seeking something. What are they seeking? The whites always want something; they are always uneasy and restless. We do not know what they want. We do not understand them. We think that they are mad.”
    I asked him why he thought the whites were all mad.
    “They say that they think with their heads,” he replied.
    “Why of course. What do you think with? I asked him in surprise.
    “We think here,” he said, indicating his heart.
    I fell into a long meditation. For the first time in my life, so it seemed to me, someone had drawn for me a picture of the real white man. It was as though until now I had seen nothing but sentimental, prettified color prints. This Indian had struck our vulnerable spot, unveiled a truth to which we are blind. I felt rising within me like a shapeless mist something unknown and yet deeply familiar. And out of this mist, image upon image detached itself: first Roman legions smashing into the cities of Gaul, and the keenly incised features of Julius Caesar, Scipio Africanus, and Pompey. I saw the Roman eagle on the North Sea and on the banks of the White Nile. Then I saw St. Augustine transmitting the Christian creed to the Britons on the tips of Roman lances, and Charlemagne’s most glorious forced conversions of the heathen; then the pillaging and murdering bands of the Crusading armies. With a secret stab I realized the hollowness of that old romanticism about the Crusades. Then followed Columbus, Cortes, and the other conquistadors who with fire, sword, torture, and Christianity came down upon even these remote pueblos dreaming peacefully in the Sun, their Father. I saw, too, the peoples of the Pacific islands decimated by firewater, syphilis, and scarlet fever carried in the clothes the missionaries forced on them.
    It was enough. What we from our point of view called colonization, missions to the heathen, spread of civilization, etc., has another face-the face of a bird of prey seeking with cruel intentness for distant quarry-a face worthy of a race of pirates and highwaymen. All the eagles and other predatory creatures that adorn our coats of arms seem to me apt psychological representatives of our true nature.
    • Thank you for that.
      At once so true, a genuine attempt at grace, admiration and forgiveness, and yet so heart-breakingly racist and incapable of escaping the same fragmenting, colonizing mind-process and language he seeks to grieve.
      • Very well said, Anon (Pick a name!).
        While C.G. Jung was in India, he was offered a trip to visit Ramana Maharshi, the great enlightened master. Jung declined. He rationalized that Yoga – Ramana had nothing to do with Yoga – was not compatible with the Western mind. Utter nonsense.
        Instead of humbly meeting with one of the great Indian sages, Jung preferred the security of writing books on wisdom, religion, Tao, Tantra. This is the way of the academic.
    • The most important thing for white people is freedom. The most important thing for Indian people is honor.
      The white world puts all the power at the top. When someone gets to the top, they have the power to take your freedom. In your churches there is someone at the top. In your schools, too. In your government. In your business. There is always someone at the top, and that person has the right to say whether you are good or bad. They own you. No wonder Americans always worry about freedom. You have so damn little of it. If you don’t protect it, someone will take it away from you.
      When you came among us, you couldn’t understand our way. You wanted to find the person at the top. You wanted to find the fences that bound us in. Your world was made of cages and you thought ours was, too.
      Everything looked like cages. Your clothes fit like cages. Your houses looked like cages. You put fences around your yards so they looked like cages. Everything was a cage. You turned the land into cages. Little squares. Then you made a government to protect these cages. And that government was all cages. The only freedom you had was inside your own cage. Then you wondered why you weren’t happy and didn’t feel free.
      We Indians never thought that way. Everyone was free. We didn’t make cages of laws or land. We believed in honor. To us, the white man looked like a blind man walking. He knew he was on the wrong path when he bumped into the edge of one of the cages. Our guide was inside, not outside. It was honor. It was more important for us to know what was right than to know what was wrong.
      We looked at animals and saw what was right. We saw how every animal had wisdom and we tried to learn that wisdom. We looked to see how they got along and how they raised their young. We did not look for what was wrong. Instead we always reached for what was right. It was this search that kept us on a good path, not rules and fences. We wanted honor for ourselves and our families. The only time freedom is important is when others are trying to put you in chains. We had no chains so we needed no freedom.
      We had always had our freedom, so you had nothing of value to give us. All you could do is take it away and give it back to us in the form of cages. You took our honor and gave us your freedom. And even you know that is no freedom at all. It is just the freedom to live inside your own locked cage.
      Excerpt from the book “Neither Wolf nor Dog. On Forgotten Roads with an Indian Elder” by Kent Nerburn
      ………………………………
      The Genocide of a Culture
      Video was made with different intention but nonetheless shows how the soul of the Indians was broken by teaching them ‘civilized’ ways of life.
      This video presents exerpts from the letters and diaries of Jesuit missionaries in Canada during the early 17th century. The Jesuit conversion program focused on teaching the Natives the importance and sanctity of hierarchy, womens subjugation and the corporeal punishment of children, to put each other in prison and publicly persecute each other.
  3. Another Day, Another Billion for Color Revolutions Near Russia’s Borders
    “Last week, the Obama administration proposed its final, 2017 fiscal year budget proposal to Congress. Among the proposed outlays is a State Department request for nearly a billion dollars to counter “Russian aggression” and “promote democracy” in the former Soviet Union. In other words, Washington thinks the region needs more color revolutions.
    On Tuesday, the State Department and USAID held a special joint briefing, laying out a $50.1 billion spending request for 2017, including $953 million in “critical support for Ukraine and surrounding countries in Europe, Eurasia and Central Asia to counter Russian aggression through foreign assistance and public diplomacy.”
    The funds, officials specified, would go toward “enhancing access to independent, unbiased information; eliminating corruption and supporting rule of law; strengthening civil society; enhancing energy security, supporting financial reforms, trade, and economic diversification; and increasing some defense capabilities” in countries including “Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova [and] in Central Asia.”
    The spending would be separate from the proposed $3.4 billion (up from $789 million in 2016), provided by the so-called “European Reassurance Initiative,” which aims for “a significant reinvestment in the US military presence in Europe after decades of gradual withdrawal” to counter “the growing threat Russia poses to long-term US national security interests in Europe and beyond.”
    With most of the Western media basically ignoring the plans and focusing on other aspects of the budget’s whopping $4 trillion in proposed spending, Russian security analysts, naturally, couldn’t let this ‘minor detail’ simply slip by unnoticed, given that the spending proposal is openly oriented against Russia.”
    • In other words, bribes. And money that’s unaccountable. Corruption will go through the roof, the one thing they say they want to combat. No one will know how the money is spent or where it will go. Many call these people in the State Dept. this or that, but I call them power hungry and most importantly, stupid. How can they get away with this, not really screwing things up, more than it is now? This State Dept, initiated by Hillary Clinton, has first off castrated the CIA (only less than 7% are in the field; 93% are in cubicles in Langley; not much of an intelligence agency anymore), and has taken over doing covert actions, using vast amounts of money. And all actions have gone down the sewer pipe. All I say is this. Russia will teach them a lesson they will never forget. They don’t behead people, rape women, kill children, invade countries, as the Saudis and especially Turkey is now doing. And most importantly, they have the guts and the muscle to protect their interests.
  4. Good morning, World, from Hotel California. The sun is on the rise, the sky is clear and the temp will rise to the mid-eighties. I plan to walk a half-hour to a nursery, buy a potted tree and by a dolly lift bring it back and plant it.
    I just came from the previous thread about the Shattered Mirror. Struck me clear as a bell that we’re all racists to some degree by virtue of the human race. What keeps us from shattering like a mirror hitting a hammer is music, the music of the spheres if you will.
    Rhythm, verbal and otherwise, is in our genes. It’s a moveable feast of music using words and what they mean.
    I hear it as I pass by the various cafes here in town, in the voices of the diners and in the smiles of the children, even as the shards of shattering narrow my eyes and bar my ears.
    Love is a many splendored thing, multi-layered and multi-polared. It makes me glad and sad in equal measure. I mostly sing off key with many false notes and moves. Hammers don’t forgive but vineyards do.
    When I read about the shattered mirrors and dreams I know I’m very lucky to be where I am in time and space. Putting the broken pieces together I can sort of see my way clear. I go over the past and clean up where I can.
    It’s a moveable feast all right but why am I starving? Maybe it’s motion sickness.
    Reality sets in. I just got a message from the machine that this machine will shut down in ten minutes so I better save my work or it will be lost forever. No big loss I’d say but I’ll do what I’m told. I welcome the day the machine shuts down for good and love alone remains.
  5. Turkey is shelling YPG positions on the outskirts of Azaz n Aleppo, Syria.. which the group recently took control of. Russia should send a cruise missile to the Turkish artillery battery positions. Turkey has done this many times before to help their moderate terrorists but not with Russia watching.
    http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/21ce/sawx8pc9ss39s1hzg.jpg
    Turkey PM threatens military action against Syrian Kurdish rebels in Syria
    Turkish official says there will be a ‘massive escalation’ in Syria over next 24 hours. After 4 years of #ISIS being on Turkey southern border, not once did Turkey fire on #ISIS but Erdogan would not waste time to bomb Kurds
    Turkey shelling Kurds in Syria is an unprovoked attack. Turkey is giving artillery support to Al-Qaeda who just lost an airbase to Kurds.
    Footage of Turkish artillery shelling YPG/SDF positions on Efrîn fronts.
    https://twitter.com/DrPartizan_/status/698553134558355456
    Turkish forces shelling in the densely inhabited city of Malkieh in the northern #Aleppo countryside. Syria
    Turkey is shelling areas of Aleppo, including Minnigh, recently taken by the YPG from Islamists. https://t.co/BG0IMMvfBW
    Assad’s Full interview with @AFP agency
    https://t.co/apKI8agA3I
  6. Desperate propaganda abounds, echo-chambered by the usual slime vassals:
    Syria conflict: Pressure grows on Russia over civilian bomb deaths
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35568692
    Under fire for Syria bombings, Russia denies hitting civilians
    http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCAKCN0VM0CV?sp=true
    Saudi Arabia, Turkey may launch ground operations in Syria: Turkish media
    http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/saudi-arabia-turkey-may-launch-ground-operations-in-syria-turkish-media-1.2776610
    Will this be followed by empire precipitated shaped chaos -perhaps the UK one man dress shop quoted above could weigh in?
  7. Strange Bedfellows
    “Up until the point where the US had to begrudgingly acknowledge that strategically engineered “Weapons of Mass Migration” were being used against the EU and predictably blame it all on Russia, its allied “NGOs” and information outlets had categorically denied that such a planned phenomenon was taking place, slurring anyone who dared to even infer this possibility as being “racist”, “fascist”, and “white supremacist”. Astonishingly, this mainstream media-imposed “political correctness” and ideological intimidation was aggressively repeated by social and alternative media “activists” who fashioned themselves as (militant) far-left “anti-imperialists” — typically the sort of individuals who speak out against the US’ “thought police” or at least respect others’ right to do so.
    These “anti-imperialists” claim to support Russia’s role in the world, yet state that border controls and assimilative & integrational immigration policies are some kind of “new fascism”. Apparently they never read President Putin’s 2012 manifesto on the topic, otherwise they would know that the Russian leader has a very firm and publicly declared stance against open borders and the Western conception of “multiculturalism”. By attacking concerned individuals that espouse these exact same principles as “racist”, “fascist”, and “white supremacist”, they’re indirectly attacking Russia and associating it with those slurs. It’s a documented fact that the tentacles of unipolar influence are long and deeply embedded in all sorts of social and political movements, so it’s reasonable to question whether these “anti-imperialist” voices are just “misguided activists” or if they’re really just anti-Russian provocateurs with an ideological ax to grind. ”
  8. War of Words: US Wages Information Campaign Against Russia
    “We need to understand that an information war was declared against Russia, so such statements shouldn’t come as a surprise,” Stepanyan told Radio Sputnik. “The fact that these statements are easy to refute matters little for the US leadership because its goal is to create an information phantom for the electorate. They’re well versed in the art of fooling the masses; the creed of their propaganda is ‘the more terrifying the lie is, the more people believe in it’.”
    “These are all elements of hybrid warfare, its integral component — psychological warfare,” he concluded.
    Meanwhile, US President Barack Obama sought to increase the budget of the Broadcasting Board of Governors, the US federal agency responsible for the Voice of America and Radio Liberty/Radio Free Europe, among others, requested a substantial budget increase. If the newly proposed budget for fiscal year 2017 is approved, the agency will receive nearly $778 million – a vast sum, especially compared to Russia’s foreign media budget.
    For example, MIA Rossiya Segodnya, the parent company of Sputnik News, operates on a budget of $75 million, including both domestic and foreign media — 10 times less than the BBG.”

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